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  According to Jehovah's Witnesses, who will be saved?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i know who won't be saved according to witnesses and that includes just about everyone alive at armageddon who is not a jehovah’s witness.

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  others who are permanently lost include adam and eve, those who died in the flood, people of sodom and gomorrah and apostates to their one true religion..

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  Sea Breeze

  After humanity reaches perfection at the end of the thousand years and walks faultlessly can eat of the tree of life and be saved.

  Fisherman: This is the false gospel of the WT. It was unknown to the apostles who preached the "ministry of reconciliation". Why don't JW's preach that they can be reconciled to God NOW?

  Romans 8: 1 says that there is NOW no condemnation for born again believers.

  John5: 24 and John 6: 47- says we have passed from death to life & that we have (present tense) eternal life now.

  Do not imagine that you will receive anything from the Lord other than that which you seek: payment for your works, which you won't like I promise.

  You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. - Gal 5: 4

  Do you know what the word "severed" means? "if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his" - Romans 8: 9
  
  

  Nada, zilch, zero .... understand now?
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  According to Jehovah's Witnesses, who will be saved?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know who won't be saved according to witnesses and that includes just about everyone alive at armageddon who is not a jehovah’s witness.

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  others who are permanently lost include adam and eve, those who died in the flood, people of sodom and gomorrah and apostates to their one true religion..

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  Sea Breeze

  Fisherman,

  Can you walk faultlessly? If not, you got a problem. Why quote the scriptures that condemn you and ignore the ones that save you?

  we can only guess what the Bible means by righteous and unrighteous being resurrected.

  No, the bible tells us exactly what will happen to the righteous and unrighteous. - all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. - Jn. 5
  
  The righteous will inherit the earth... remember? But scripture announces in several places that "there is no one righteous, no not one". So the only way to be righteous if for it to be imputed to you. And the only way for that to happen is through the new covenant.
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  Where it all went wrong for the WT - JF Rutherford

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. watchtower
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  i was thinking a bit about this the other day.

  ct russell, from what i remember about him, kinda seemed like a genuine, nice(ish) guy, although he had a few eccentric but harmless ideas.. during the russell era jws (actually bible students) could still celebrate christmas, worship in other churches if there was no kingdom hall available, and accept blood transfusions.. then after russell died, along came rutherford - a major league a-hole, for sure.. rutherford had plenty of eccentric ideas but at least some of them weren't/aren't harmless.

  some have been long forgotten about - jesus depicted without a beard, the plan to rename the names of the week because names such as thursday (thor's day) is pagan, the articles about the 'dangers' of aluminium, etc.. one key contribution of rutherford which does a lot of harm is no blood transfusions, even in life-threatening situations.. another is shunning, something which never occurred under russell, or at least was much milder.. rutherford has a lot to answer for, i reckon ....

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  Sea Breeze

  Pretty much sums it up Ding.
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  Beat to Hell.......were you as a child as a JW?

  by restrangled in

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  there was a scripture about a rod.......it seemed to be in every other watchtower.....it was an excuse to beat children.

  i was a little girl.

  i was beat with my pants down every time they could.

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  Sea Breeze

  I got beat with a belt by both parents once. Mom wasn't doing a good enough job with the beating so Dad took over. What for? The sin of walking silly with my 12 yr. old friend at a convention when I was supposed to be in my seat. They were going to make sure I got life if they had to kill me to do it.... or something like that.
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  Senior JW member in Australia charged with sex crimes and torture

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  see: https://7news.com.au/news/crime/senior-jehovahs-witnesses-member-charged-with-rape-torture-and-assault-of-teenage-boys-c-8044666.

  "senior jehovah’s witnesses member charged with rape, torture and assault of teenage boys...".

  the 61 year-old man "faces 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procuring sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.".

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  Sea Breeze

  Looks like it was an elder according to the news.

  Apparently, a lot of abuse took place.
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  End of watchtower

  by Hellothere in

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  shouldn't gb tell members to abandon organisation?

  surely things are pointing at watchtower being part of babylon the great.

  in with way is watchtower being bless and been shown god's favour this days?

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  Sea Breeze

  This is why:

  
  

  
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  Watchtower Basketball Guidelines!

  by Atlantis in

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  watchtower basketball guidelines.

  click image to enlarge.

  https://postimg.cc/btgxcgcb.

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  Sea Breeze

  Wow! After ruining the lives of millions of kids who wanted to to play team sports, they turnaround and build all sorts of sports facilities for themselves. Then, they post a sign that essentially says if you aren't one of the elite, then get the hell off our court.
  
  It is difficult to take in the breath of this hypocrisy!
  
  
  
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  10 years on and I’m still indoctrinated

  by joe134cd in

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  2. experiences

  this experience highlights the level of my indoctrination, after 10 years of been a pomo.

  a few months back my gf was hinting to me about what we could do for my birthday.

  to be honest i just had no idea, that i even had a birthday.

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  Sea Breeze

  I really can’t be bothered with birthdays and Christmas. I actually see this as an advantage of been a former JW.

  Well, the way my (non-jw) wife explained it was that it wasn't about me, it was about the people who want to display love to you on those occasions. So, it's one of the things that is cultural and will likely create hard feelings and hurt others if not participated in. Just another nagging left-over issue from WT mind control.

  Now go get some cake!
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  Senior JW member in Australia charged with sex crimes and torture

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  see: https://7news.com.au/news/crime/senior-jehovahs-witnesses-member-charged-with-rape-torture-and-assault-of-teenage-boys-c-8044666.

  "senior jehovah’s witnesses member charged with rape, torture and assault of teenage boys...".

  the 61 year-old man "faces 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procuring sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.".

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  Sea Breeze

  Mmmm?
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  Dumb 'experiences' you were told as a JW

  by BettyHumpter in

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  2. friends

  this one stands out in my mind.

  it was reported that 'a brother', unnamed of course, was out in field service and was set upon by a pack of vicious dogs.

  he made it back to the car and was injured quite badly with his arms, hands and leg bleeding heavily.

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  Sea Breeze

  One of the many I have heard over the years goes like this:

  A JW couldn't reach the doorbell because a wrought iron fence encircled the home. So, he banged on the bars and a big German Shepherd came running up and pushed the gate open. Thinking fast the JW shoved a Watchtower into his mouth and said, "take me to your master". The dog calmed down and dutifully trotted away. So, he followed. He found the owner of the house far back in the back yard.
  
  A discussion ensued and the HH remarked that his dog had never acted like that to anyone before because he was a trained guard dog. He took the literature and later accepted a home bible study. Last report was that he was making fine progress along the road to life.

  Not sure if the German Shepherd ate his spiritual food as well.